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Poster: macdaddy Date: Feb 12, 2005 6:15pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Discuss: Evaluation Time for LMA Deriver (mp3, ogg generator)

my $.02

i believe in access to the music, and the inclusion of "lossies" certainly provides access to many, many more people, and this is a very positive thing that i certainly want to encourage - all of my recordings that have been posted to the LlaMA have included lossy formats...

as for the mp3 > WAV issue, posting the lossy and lossless side by side, and providing access to both types of formats should at least minimize the problems of mp3 > WAV. it is still going to happen, but if we make the lossless available, hopefully most cats that care about lossless will know to go to the LlaMA and get the lossless there. there is no amount of social engineering taht can stop the people who do not know any better, but by making both formats available, the problem is minimized, and the lossless is on the archive, readily available to all, preserving the integrity of the recording...

the only issue i have with any of the lossy stuff is that you use mp3. i wish you would only use ogg - it is an open format, there is no legal grey area with the patents of the encoder, and it is the RIGHT thing to do...

and an mp3 decoder plugin has to be included in a media player just like an ogg one, so saying mp3 is easier for Joe Computeruser to utilize is not really valid...

keep up the good work, y'all. open discourse is a positive thing.

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Poster: cwier60 Date: Feb 12, 2005 11:50pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Discuss: Evaluation Time for LMA Deriver (mp3, ogg generator)

> the only issue i have with any of the lossy stuff is that you use mp3. i wish you would only use ogg

The biggest reason to include MP3 is that the majority of portable "MP3" players don't support the open source formats. Hopefully that will change. Therefore, I download/stream OGG for listening at work, but d/l MP3 to play on my Dell DJ (which supports only MP3, WMA, & WAV).

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Poster: KyleMidura Date: Feb 13, 2005 1:45am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Discuss: Evaluation Time for LMA Deriver (mp3, ogg generator)

simply put, one of the main tenets of this site is to be able to spread music. Now, while many of those who are posting on this forum have the wherewithal to be able to play shn/flac, the vast majority of internet users do not. This site's popularity has spread like wild-fire throughout my school, as there are a significant amount of Dead Heads and fans of Greyspoke Variety (a local band), and I can safely say that I am one of a handful of people who can say they are comfortable with those formats. I myself download mostly in MP3 as I will be playing it on a CD in my car (which does not have a good sound system) and I already have an extensive music collection and simply don't have the space for lossless formats. If mp3s of a show are not available, I simply don't download it, the absence of mp3s does not force me to download the shn/flac. For those who mastered this audio, it only has the potential to be downloaded by more people, and those who truly appreciate great sound quality (the target audience of these masterers) will download the lossless format anyway.